Comments on: Blurry Faces & Shady Deals http://jwarren.co.uk/articles/opinion/blurry-faces/ a London based freelance Photojournalist Sun, 08 Aug 2010 09:26:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Nigel Howardhttp://jwarren.co.uk/articles/opinion/blurry-faces/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Nigel Howard Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:18:39 +0000 http://j-warren.co.uk/blog/?p=24#comment-184 Jonathan, One last point which I did not mention whilst it is fantastic news that the guidelines were produced and I am pleased to say that I was there when they were first discussed they are ONLY guidelines and are DO not have to be adhered to as they are only guidelines. there is NO disciplinary offence in the MPS Met Police Service if an officer chooses to ignore them. In my opinion they should be re-worded and made to be enforced as part of the police regulations and their own discipline code. There are I am pleased to say a number of police who do now make it possible for us to do our job in an easier way and of course those who do not.ENDS Jonathan, One last point which I did not mention whilst it is fantastic news that the guidelines were produced and I am pleased to say that I was there when they were first discussed they are ONLY guidelines and are DO not have to be adhered to as they are only guidelines. there is NO disciplinary offence in the MPS Met Police Service if an officer chooses to ignore them. In my opinion they should be re-worded and made to be enforced as part of the police regulations and their own discipline code. There are I am pleased to say a number of police who do now make it possible for us to do our job in an easier way and of course those who do not.ENDS

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By: Nigel Howardhttp://jwarren.co.uk/articles/opinion/blurry-faces/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Nigel Howard Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:13:33 +0000 http://j-warren.co.uk/blog/?p=24#comment-183 Jonathan, FYI please see the attached which was published in the press gazette.As the organiser of the meeting that took place between photographers and police It is important to set the record straight and address the concerns of phtographers who did not attend the meeting and also offer some background as to how and why the meeting was structured.I sent an email to National newspaper picture desks and also to to the PA, NUJ, BPPA in addition to news agencies. Several follow up phone calls were made to see if and who they would be sending. Additionally I also invited many other freelance photographers by telephone and explained the reason why the meeting was organised (as they had were not in receipt of the email invitation), I also mentioned to some that they were most welcome to also invite others that they thought would benefit from attending the meeting.This meeting as far as I am aware is the first meeting of it's kind to have taken place between photographers and the Metropolitan Police Firearms unit CO19 and came about after (an incident in Kensington involving armed police) a series of phone calls, emails and indeed a previous meeting some months with Commander Jo Kaye. I cannot speak on behalf of others that attended the meeting, I found it to be informative and rewarding, myy thanks to police for agreeing to the meeting.For those who are aware and indeed for those who are not aware the original talks with police started some years ago with a number of respected photographers, namely Jeff Moore, Paul Stewart, myself and also the NUJ. Jeff Moore, Paul Stewart and the NUJ continue to have talks with the police, I also have talks with police fully independently of the aforementioned persons and bodies which have proved to be constructive and rewarding and have seen some quite amazing results. As a member of the BPPA and NUJ I am fully supportive in their ongoing talks and indeed wish them every success.It is with great regret that more photographers did not attend the meeting and question police, voice their opinion in an open forum and enter into discussion with them and their fellow photographers. Perhaps if they did they would have been better informed to have known exactly what had taken place.It was not my intention and has not been at any time my intent to speak on behalf or indeed represent any body or organisation or any other photographer, save for the fact that I informed my newspaper that I work for as a freelance photographer that I organised the meeting and would be attending.In closing let it be made perfectly crystal clear, that no deal or agreement was made at the meeting to pixilate the faces of armed police officers by photographers. It was made clear and understood by police that this is a decision to be taken by Picture Editors and NOT photographers. The Met have are however considering writing to picture desks asking that CO19 officers faces are pixilated, again this is a decision for Picture Editors and NOT photogarphers.I sincerely hope that this now addresses any outstanding issues any photographers have or had as a result of the meeting.Nigel Howard Jonathan, FYI please see the attached which was published in the press gazette.

As the organiser of the meeting that took place between photographers and police It is important to set the record straight and address the concerns of phtographers who did not attend the meeting and also offer some background as to how and why the meeting was structured.

I sent an email to National newspaper picture desks and also to to the PA, NUJ, BPPA in addition to news agencies. Several follow up phone calls were made to see if and who they would be sending. Additionally I also invited many other freelance photographers by telephone and explained the reason why the meeting was organised (as they had were not in receipt of the email invitation), I also mentioned to some that they were most welcome to also invite others that they thought would benefit from attending the meeting.

This meeting as far as I am aware is the first meeting of it’s kind to have taken place between photographers and the Metropolitan Police Firearms unit CO19 and came about after (an incident in Kensington involving armed police) a series of phone calls, emails and indeed a previous meeting some months with Commander Jo Kaye. I cannot speak on behalf of others that attended the meeting, I found it to be informative and rewarding, myy thanks to police for agreeing to the meeting.

For those who are aware and indeed for those who are not aware the original talks with police started some years ago with a number of respected photographers, namely Jeff Moore, Paul Stewart, myself and also the NUJ. Jeff Moore, Paul Stewart and the NUJ continue to have talks with the police, I also have talks with police fully independently of the aforementioned persons and bodies which have proved to be constructive and rewarding and have seen some quite amazing results. As a member of the BPPA and NUJ I am fully supportive in their ongoing talks and indeed wish them every success.

It is with great regret that more photographers did not attend the meeting and question police, voice their opinion in an open forum and enter into discussion with them and their fellow photographers. Perhaps if they did they would have been better informed to have known exactly what had taken place.

It was not my intention and has not been at any time my intent to speak on behalf or indeed represent any body or organisation or any other photographer, save for the fact that I informed my newspaper that I work for as a freelance photographer that I organised the meeting and would be attending.

In closing let it be made perfectly crystal clear, that no deal or agreement was made at the meeting to pixilate the faces of armed police officers by photographers. It was made clear and understood by police that this is a decision to be taken by Picture Editors and NOT photographers. The Met have are however considering writing to picture desks asking that CO19 officers faces are pixilated, again this is a decision for Picture Editors and NOT photogarphers.

I sincerely hope that this now addresses any outstanding issues any photographers have or had as a result of the meeting.

Nigel Howard

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By: Marc Valleehttp://jwarren.co.uk/articles/opinion/blurry-faces/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Marc Vallee Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:10:42 +0000 http://j-warren.co.uk/blog/?p=24#comment-182 Great post Jono! Great post Jono!

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