Comments on: Following the English Defence League

By: John Doe

John Doe — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:41:40 +0000

“Degree in Documentary Photography”

The most ridiculous thing is that this individual’s course is subsidised to the exact same monetary amount by the UK Government that my Oxford Engineering degree is.

And the individual in question probably sees this as a perfectly normal state of affairs! Yes – more photo journalism – it’s just as important as scientific research and the engineering which makes such research a reality! that’ll really help us grow our way out of the hole we’re in! More lefty unwashed unproductives!

Incredible.

Don’t worry socialists – as you will find in the bond markets after May 6th if Lib-Lab gets in – there’s one problem with socialism:

Eventually you run out of other people’s money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/7621289/Escalating-Greek-default-fears-rock-Europes-debt-markets.html

Tata.

By: Jonathan Warren

Jonathan Warren — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:42:32 +0000

We seem to have strayed quite far from the original issue and into the personal.

I’m closing the comments on this article temporarily so everyone can cool off and we can get back to some reasoned debate.

By: spod

spod — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:37:57 +0000

Flock,
Good for you..have fun..Im working.

By: florence durrant

florence durrant — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:30:04 +0000

plod – I don’t wait for anyone to do anything – I grab the bulls by its balls and I slowly squash them until I castrate – go to sleep!

By: spod

spod — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:22:41 +0000

Keep following the flock Florence, you sound like a product of new labour..same old accusations, rhetoric and martyrdom.You do know the nationalists wouldnt have gone into this dumb war!
Do you expect the “lobsters” to sit around and wait for “second class citizenship” to take hold..its not going to happen.
The UAF and NUJ are the governments useful idiots, go look at the signatories on their sites.
Apartheid exists in many towns across this country, the road I was born on is a no go area for me now, simply because I am a lobster tinted atheist.
Humanity isnt owned by the left leaners.

By: florence durrant

florence durrant — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:31:37 +0000

spod, I do come across black and asian people, either born in the UK or with British citizenship who argue in favour of the british jobs for british people. It is only when I point out to them that according to the BNP and their supporters, they are not worth of Britishness and that just like the Nazis in Germany, the BNP and their supporters in the EDL don’t care a dime about anyone who is not a white (lobster) colour and racist. Some people just love to be brainwashed what ever colour they are. Jonathan is 100% right to say that the ‘Hallmarks of the EDL are insobriety, violence and racism”. That is how the British empire was founded – on insobriety, violence and racism. If you cannot see that then that means you are also a racist.

On the contrary, I believe in humanity and humane values given the fact that this whole havoc of immigration that gives birth to racism is caused by these war mongers whose headquarters are at No 10 Downing Street, here in England. I am a product of apartheid, a black woman who was segregated in her own country and classified as second class. No one is going to make me a second class citizen again what ever country I choose to live in, hence people like Jonathan are heaven sent!

By: spod

spod — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:28:31 +0000

Whats wrong with working class patriotism?
Whats wrong with working class people being against a facist ideology/religion?
Whats f*cking facist about that?
One mans facist…etc etc.

By: AC

AC — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:47:11 +0000

Do you know what journalists are paid? Some might be highly paid, most work for local newspapers and I think it’s a stretch to describe them as middle class. Being white collar does not make you middle class (and what’s wrong with middle class people being against facism anyway?).

By: spod

spod — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:53:50 +0000

Florence,
Dont you see the irony in your hints at judgmental stereotyping, isnt that what Jonathon and the NUJ are doing with the likes of these pressure groups.
Jonathan writes
“Hallmarks of the EDL are insobriety, violence and racism”, and by writing spin like this tars all the 2000 plus crowd with the same brush, this sort of journalism is more interested in political gain than truthful reporting.
Im sure if the majority of the edl were racist then the four or five black members in the crowd would have been in trouble….not the case fortunately.
My “argument” with Jonathon is simple, he and his Union are claiming the moral highground whilst trampling over honesty and integrity.
Cheap tabloid journalism.

By: florence durrant

florence durrant — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:45:53 +0000

spod, you have lost me there. Jonathan is a member of the NUJ not the Royal College of Nursing (upper stiff lip – see no wrong hear no wrong kind of union)! I left the RCN for that reason and joined UNISON, but you know what, I would rather be a member of the NUJ anytime, at least they do spin about injustices when they see them rather than cozy up with politicians who are sucking up to big business at the expense of their members.

I don’t know about Jonathan, but at the end of my working day I f*ck off to my cozy home that I spent half my life working 24/7 to buy. I am not a liberal middle class of any sorts but I am a kind of rag to riches kind of woman. The only way I did it was bash the steriotypes that judgemental people are experts at and am forever moving away from any comfort zone whether in career move or in social circles. As a poor black the steriotypes associate me with crime. As a hard working person with no class I remain in an island of your own – damned for having worked hard and moved myself away from poverty and accepted in the ‘middle class’ circle as ‘one of us because you don’t behave like other black people.’
Hence I fail to understand your argument against Jonathan – damned if you do, damned if you don’t.