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	<title>Comments on: Climate Camp: No Out of Hours Access</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Warren</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The camp is no more open than previous years, all we have gotten is longer access. And that has only been after complaining bitterly each year, like we are again this year.

The framing of this discussion has changed slightly now that the camp has been set up on common land, something which I&#039;ve addressed in &lt;a href=&quot;http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-code-of-conduct/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another blog post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The camp is no more open than previous years, all we have gotten is longer access. And that has only been after complaining bitterly each year, like we are again this year.</p>
<p>The framing of this discussion has changed slightly now that the camp has been set up on common land, something which I&#8217;ve addressed in <a href="http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-code-of-conduct/" rel="nofollow">another blog post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same complaint from some photographers as every year despite the camp media access policy becoming more open every year. The article is inaccurate too, stating that the a previous policy allowed for blacklisting yet that was only a draft proposal and quite rightly rejected by the camp itself. 

It&#039;s really not hard to conceive the difference between a photographer and an non-photographer (such as a &#039;citizen&#039; or print journalist). One has a camera and points it at people who then feel uncomfortable and self conscious, the others don&#039;t.
While photographers may feel it is there right to point that camera anywhere they like at any time, others feel it is there right to have some privacy occasionally and punch photographers in the face when they intrude. I for one would rather that didn&#039;t happen and am glad some thought has been given to an access policy even if it is full of contradictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same complaint from some photographers as every year despite the camp media access policy becoming more open every year. The article is inaccurate too, stating that the a previous policy allowed for blacklisting yet that was only a draft proposal and quite rightly rejected by the camp itself. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not hard to conceive the difference between a photographer and an non-photographer (such as a &#8216;citizen&#8217; or print journalist). One has a camera and points it at people who then feel uncomfortable and self conscious, the others don&#8217;t.<br />
While photographers may feel it is there right to point that camera anywhere they like at any time, others feel it is there right to have some privacy occasionally and punch photographers in the face when they intrude. I for one would rather that didn&#8217;t happen and am glad some thought has been given to an access policy even if it is full of contradictions.</p>
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		<title>By: J Warren</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>J Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is impossible to reconcile the two conflicting ideas that anyone can turn up and attend the camp and that journalists are only allowed on site between 10 and 6 or longer by signing a code of conduct.

As Pilger says journalists are citizens too, we have no more right to report or photograph than anyone else, yet because we are professionals we somehow have less right to be in a field with anybody else who wishes to attend?

There will no doubt be undercover journalists at the camp this year, as there will no doubt be undercover police as there were last year and at the G20 Climate Camp earlier this year.

At any other event being an accredited journalist affords you more access, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is impossible to reconcile the two conflicting ideas that anyone can turn up and attend the camp and that journalists are only allowed on site between 10 and 6 or longer by signing a code of conduct.</p>
<p>As Pilger says journalists are citizens too, we have no more right to report or photograph than anyone else, yet because we are professionals we somehow have less right to be in a field with anybody else who wishes to attend?</p>
<p>There will no doubt be undercover journalists at the camp this year, as there will no doubt be undercover police as there were last year and at the G20 Climate Camp earlier this year.</p>
<p>At any other event being an accredited journalist affords you more access, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ash</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the issue with the media access policies is that the camp media team have spent the last few years improving it. As I understand it they are beholden to the organising meetings and the views of those campers participating - some of whom are far less friendly towards the press than the media team.

Part of the restrictions imposed previously has been in order to minimise any confrontation between other campers and members of the press, rather than to control the story. As we all (including the camp press team) know, if someone wants to go all undercover they can - snap a drunken hippy here, half hear a conversation there, hatchet job ahoy etc.

Whilst the policies are contradictory to a ludicrous degree, as Pilger and others who have worked in the same field for years have testified, but you can see where the policies stem from (including the rubbish that has been written by certain papers in the past). 

If there was no policy at all, then you can be sure the &#039;camp&#039; as it constitutes itself would hold a meeting and ban all press from the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the issue with the media access policies is that the camp media team have spent the last few years improving it. As I understand it they are beholden to the organising meetings and the views of those campers participating &#8211; some of whom are far less friendly towards the press than the media team.</p>
<p>Part of the restrictions imposed previously has been in order to minimise any confrontation between other campers and members of the press, rather than to control the story. As we all (including the camp press team) know, if someone wants to go all undercover they can &#8211; snap a drunken hippy here, half hear a conversation there, hatchet job ahoy etc.</p>
<p>Whilst the policies are contradictory to a ludicrous degree, as Pilger and others who have worked in the same field for years have testified, but you can see where the policies stem from (including the rubbish that has been written by certain papers in the past). </p>
<p>If there was no policy at all, then you can be sure the &#8216;camp&#8217; as it constitutes itself would hold a meeting and ban all press from the site.</p>
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		<title>By: J Warren</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>J Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, if ordinary campers are allowed to tweet and blog away why can&#039;t journalists?

No doubt everyone will be encouraged to use the Indymedia tent as in previous years, in 2007 when I asked to photograph inside the Indymedia tent they told me I wasn&#039;t allowed, you can now see that very same tent on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_for_Climate_Action#Policing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s nothing more than an attempt to control the story and the bizarre belief that all journalists are evil, invasive people who will be sticking their lenses everywhere.

Why should journalists have to sign a code of conduct when every other person on the camp is allowed to report freely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, if ordinary campers are allowed to tweet and blog away why can&#8217;t journalists?</p>
<p>No doubt everyone will be encouraged to use the Indymedia tent as in previous years, in 2007 when I asked to photograph inside the Indymedia tent they told me I wasn&#8217;t allowed, you can now see that very same tent on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_for_Climate_Action#Policing" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing more than an attempt to control the story and the bizarre belief that all journalists are evil, invasive people who will be sticking their lenses everywhere.</p>
<p>Why should journalists have to sign a code of conduct when every other person on the camp is allowed to report freely?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Potter</title>
		<link>http://jwarren.co.uk/blog/climate-camp-no-access/comment-page-1/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bit bemused by this too, goes against Climate Camp&#039;s anti-authoritarian principles. 

I&#039;ll be attending the camp and intend to blog and tweet while I&#039;m there. I emailed the Press team yesterday to ask how their Media Access Policy affects people doing this, wondering if I&#039;ll be getting a slapped wrist for using Qik and Twitpic etc. They replied: 

&quot;in the handbook that will be handed out to all campers, there will be a section providing guidelines for people who will be taking photos and
videos in this capcity - asking people to bascvially just do it with respect&quot; (sic)

Interested to see what those guidelines are because if the idea is to basically just do it with respect, surely that&#039;s the only guideline required? Or am I reading into it too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bit bemused by this too, goes against Climate Camp&#8217;s anti-authoritarian principles. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be attending the camp and intend to blog and tweet while I&#8217;m there. I emailed the Press team yesterday to ask how their Media Access Policy affects people doing this, wondering if I&#8217;ll be getting a slapped wrist for using Qik and Twitpic etc. They replied: </p>
<p>&#8220;in the handbook that will be handed out to all campers, there will be a section providing guidelines for people who will be taking photos and<br />
videos in this capcity &#8211; asking people to bascvially just do it with respect&#8221; (sic)</p>
<p>Interested to see what those guidelines are because if the idea is to basically just do it with respect, surely that&#8217;s the only guideline required? Or am I reading into it too much?</p>
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